Breaking News: Plants Love Greenhouse Gas

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by Elmer Beaureguard

In a recent study at the University of Illinois they just discovered something that I learned in 6th grade, that plants love CO2. In fact they can't get enough of it, they need it to survive and grow. The more CO2 there is the more they convert it into Oxygen for us to breath. It's a beautiful symbiotic relationship between man and plants called Photosynthesis.

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The study, from researchers at the University of Illinois and the U.S. Dept. of Agriculture, appears this week in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

"The enhanced respiration is likely to support greater transport of
sugars from leaves to other growing parts of the plant, including the
seeds,
"

In 2003 in a similar study scientists set out to prove the effect of greenhouse gasses on trees. They planted trees in New York City and trees way out in the woods. To their surprise, the trees planted in the city grew twice as rapidly as the ones in the country.
link to article.

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"In the country, the trees were about up to my waist. In the city, they were almost over my head -- it's really dramatic," said Jillian W. Gregg, the study's lead author.
"No matter what soil I grew them in they always grew twice as large in New York City," said Gregg, who said she was initially perplexed by the unexpected results.

Of course not letting the actual results of an experiment get in the way of their original hypothesis, they somehow concluded that man is still to blame for the stunted trees in the country.

I on the other hand think that maybe, just maybe the more greenhouse gasses present, the more green things like it. Why do they call it Greenhouse Gas? Because they actually use it in greenhouses to help the plants grow. By the way its not the CO2 that keeps a greenhouse warm, its the glass enclosure, the sun and the heat source producing the CO2.

I think the trees in the country were CO2 deprived and that's why they were stunted. Just think millions of trees all competing for that little CO2 that some passing deer might exhale. But then I'm not a scientist with a Federal Grant and tons of sponsors. But 31,000 actual scientists have signed onto a study that found increased levels of CO2 is not a bad thing.
Environmental Effects of Increased Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide

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Could you let Carol Browner know this. The mental midget thinks CO2 is a pollutant.

Maybe tell Steven Chu also !

Oh Lord, won’t you buy me a Mercedes Benz?
My friends all drive hybrids, I must make amends.
Greenhouse gasses for trees, no help from my friends,
So Lord, won’t you buy me a Mercedes Benz?

-Janis Joplin for Global Warming

From what I remember from Botany, it's the photolysis of water not that creates oxygen gas. Carbon Dioxide is important in the production of plant carbohydrates and plant respiration.

Try learning science before you take a condescending attitude toward someone's research.

Your superficial sixth-grade understanding of biological processes and your interpretation of the data has no relation to the actual goals of the project.

'But 31,000 actual scientists have signed onto a study that found increased levels of CO2 is not a bad thing.'
Give me a break. Some guy on a farm with his kids calling it an 'institute' and sending out a misleading petition request. 31,000 'scientists'? No ;) (and why is it always christians who pull this kind of rubbish?)

Obviously increased CO2 levels may cause enhanced greening in some areas - perhaps even your backyard - if that's all you care about and this attitude does seem to be particularly entrenched in the American mindset.

But it's the sudden disruption to global weather patterns from a rapid increase in CO2 levels that the world's scientific institions are warning of (no - not the 'OISM'). And yes - there have been warm periods with greater CO2 concentrations in the past, but they happened over fairly long periods of time and ecosystems had time to adapt. And the world was not supporting a global civilisation at the time.

We're changing the global thermostat in an eyeblink and it's going to bite us in the rear.

YOUR NAME SAYS IT ALL!

Phil,

I agree with you that people care only about what happens in their own backyards. But I would extend that also to the people who control and work for the world's scientific institutions. TRUST NO ONE!! Let's consider who those people are and uncover the politico-religio-corporate interests that they serve.

Rob

You guys are all idiots. The plants need Co2 to grow. Light water food Co2. If you take the Co2 away from plants they wont grow hardly at all if any. You can raise the Co2 level to 1500ppm and the plants would grow so fast. They dont need to grow into it and adapt, they are already designed for it. You gobal warming kool aide drinkers, pull your big boy pants up, and think for yourself. DO the research about Co2 before you spout off information that is totally wrong. We exhale Co2, and our flesh is made partly with Co2. We are all carbon based, you idiots. The sun controls our seasons, cycles, and everything else, not C02, it controls plant growth. P.S. I always thought carbon monoxide would have been a better scam, since it is actually poisonous and also comes out of car tailpipes too.

We are such bad citizens for our pathetic lives, and pollution we create, NOW pay your carbon TAX. you fools AL GORE.

H. Robert S. J. S. wrote
'But I would extend that also to the people who control and work for the world's scientific institutions. TRUST NO ONE!!'

But where does that leave you? A sort of limitless paranoia that can include any proposition you don't like? A restricted worldview that extends only as far as what can be seen or heard in your backyard?

I think part of the issue with climate change is that it's pretty ephemeral on the individual level. The scientists are talking global changes over decades but it was cold in yourtown today and tomorrow it'll be warmer - we had a storm last week but don't know if that was due to global warming, the sky's still blue, etc...

Everytime you drive or switch on the air conditioning, you're reaping the benefits of past 'trust' in the scientific method. The scientific method has been hugely effective in providing material benefits and so has become the 'gold standard' for investigating the physical world. So it's ironic to me that as soon as the scientific community warned that our civilisation's carbon dependancy was likely to have climatic repercussions, they were painted as villains. Villains! It's a conspiracy by the UN to take over the world! They want to take our guns away! AL GORE! AL GORE! AL GORE!

Jesus. Do you know how unhinged that sounds to the rest of the world? Give me a break. Based on science's past record of discovery, I think I'll go with the scientific community on this one.

31,000 scientists have signed the Petition Project over 9,000 with PHDs. This includes Meteorologists, NASA scientists and even IPCC scientists.

The IPCC touts only 2,500 scientists who believe in Global Warming. The problem is not all of them believe in Global Warming and not all of them are scientists. And it came out last week that Rajendra Pachauri, Chairman of the IPCC (trained initially as a railway engineer) admitted that only 20% of the IPCC list have had "some dealing" with climate.

So if there is a consensus in the scientific community is against AGW.

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H Robert
I see you've listed Australia in your list. AUstralia's a big place - however much of Australia has just suffered through an unprecedented heatwave, followed by an extraordinarily intense series of bushfires that killed over 200 people. It's been a big thing down here. If you were in Sydney and waved your list of cold snaps about as proof climate change isn't happening, you'd not be very popular.

Here's what's been said about it;
'Scientists began warning some years ago that Australians should expect fires of a new ferocious order care of climate change. Yesterday’s Sydney Morning Herald editorial linked the two. Gary Morgan, head of the government-backed Bushfire Cooperative Research Center, told Australian media that climate change was altering the nature, ferocity and duration of bushfires.

University of Sydney bushfire expert Mark Adams: “I have never seen weather and other conditions as extreme as they were on Saturday, the fire weather was unprecedented. We don’t have all the evidence yet to fully explain this day in terms of climate change, however all the science to date shows that we can expect more extreme weather in the years to come.”

Fact is, in 2 minutes I found the following -

Record high temperature set - Oklahoma City
www.newsok.com/article/3189610/

Record hot conditions in north of WA (Australia)
http://www.bom.gov.au/announcements/media_releases/wa/20090112wa.shtml

Hottest December temperature ever recorded - Perth, Australia
http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/story/0,21598,22969221-2761,00.html

All-Time Record South Dakota High Temperature Tied
http://www.hprcc.unl.edu/nebraska/south-dakota-july2006-record-high-state-temperature.html

I could've gone on but can't be bothered frankly.
My understanding is that climate change means more extremes - violent storms, torrential rainfall, record high/low temperatures - we're certainly seeing this down-under and indeed many of which seem to be reflected in your list.

Elmer wrote;
'So if there is a consensus in the scientific community is against AGW.'

Bollocks. You're ignoring the big-gun scientific organisations that have endorsed the IPCC's findings. For example, the following have signed statements recognizing the international consensus of the IPCC
1. National Academy of Sciences, United States of America
2. Chinese Academy of Sciences, China
3. Royal Society, United Kingdom
4. Russian Academy of Sciences, Russia
5. Academia Brasiliera de Ciências, Brazil
6. Royal Society of Canada, Canada
7. Academié des Sciences, France
8. Deutsche Akademie der Naturforscher, Germany
9. Indian National Science Academy, India
10. Accademia dei Lincei, Italy
11. Science Council of Japan, Japan
The following have signed statements recognising the 'IPCC as the world’s most reliable source of information on climate change and its causes”
1. Australian Academy of Sciences
2. Royal Flemish Academy of Belgium for Sciences and the Arts
3. Brazilian Academy of Sciences
4. Royal Society of Canada
5. Caribbean Academy of Sciences
6. Chinese Academy of Sciences
7. French Academy of Sciences
8. German Academy of Natural Scientists Leopoldina
9. Indian National Science Academy
10. Indonesian Academy of Sciences
11. Royal Irish Academy
12. Accademia Nazionale dei Lincei (Italy)
13. Academy of Sciences Malaysia
14. Academy Council of the Royal Society of New Zealand
15. Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences
16. Royal Society (UK)
If you're going to argue that this is nothing against some crackpot petition from some guy's farm in Oregon, then you've got a drinking problem.


H Robert
I see you've listed Australia in your list. AUstralia's a big place - however much of Australia has

just suffered through an unprecedented heatwave, followed by an extraordinarily intense series of

bushfires that killed over 200 people. It's been a big thing down here. If you were in Sydney and

waved your list of cold snaps about as proof climate change isn't happening, you'd not be very

popular.

Here's what's been said about it;
'Scientists began warning some years ago that Australians should expect fires of a new ferocious

order care of climate change. Yesterday’s Sydney Morning Herald editorial linked the two. Gary

Morgan, head of the government-backed Bushfire Cooperative Research Center, told Australian media

that climate change was altering the nature, ferocity and duration of bushfires.

University of Sydney bushfire expert Mark Adams: “I have never seen weather and other conditions as

extreme as they were on Saturday, the fire weather was unprecedented. We don’t have all the evidence

yet to fully explain this day in terms of climate change, however all the science to date shows that

we can expect more extreme weather in the years to come.”

Fact is, in 2 minutes I found the following -

Record high temperature set - Oklahoma City
www.newsok.com/article/3189610/

Record hot conditions in north of WA (Australia)
http://www.bom.gov.au/announcements/media_releases/wa/20090112wa.shtml

Hottest December temperature ever recorded - Perth, Australia
http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/story/0,21598,22969221-2761,00.html

All-Time Record South Dakota High Temperature Tied
http://www.hprcc.unl.edu/nebraska/south-dakota-july2006-record-high-state-temperature.html

I could've gone on but can't be bothered frankly.
My understanding is that climate change means more extremes - violent storms, torrential rainfall,

record high/low temperatures - we're certainly seeing this down-under and indeed many of which seem

to be reflected in your list.

Elmer wrote;
'So if there is a consensus in the scientific community is against AGW.'

Bollocks. You're ignoring the big-gun scientific organisations that have endorsed the IPCC's

findings. For example, the following have signed statements recognizing the international consensus

of the IPCC
1. National Academy of Sciences, United States of America
2. Chinese Academy of Sciences, China
3. Royal Society, United Kingdom
4. Russian Academy of Sciences, Russia
5. Academia Brasiliera de Ciências, Brazil
6. Royal Society of Canada, Canada
7. Academié des Sciences, France
8. Deutsche Akademie der Naturforscher, Germany
9. Indian National Science Academy, India
10. Accademia dei Lincei, Italy
11. Science Council of Japan, Japan
The following have signed statements recognising the 'IPCC as the world’s most reliable source of

information on climate change and its causes”
1. Australian Academy of Sciences
2. Royal Flemish Academy of Belgium for Sciences and the Arts
3. Brazilian Academy of Sciences
4. Royal Society of Canada
5. Caribbean Academy of Sciences
6. Chinese Academy of Sciences
7. French Academy of Sciences
8. German Academy of Natural Scientists Leopoldina
9. Indian National Science Academy
10. Indonesian Academy of Sciences
11. Royal Irish Academy
12. Accademia Nazionale dei Lincei (Italy)
13. Academy of Sciences Malaysia
14. Academy Council of the Royal Society of New Zealand
15. Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences
16. Royal Society (UK)
If you're going to argue that this is nothing against some crackpot petition from some guy's farm i

Too bad the fires in Australia were arson.

Did you read the article you posted the link to?
From the 1st paragraph;
'after investigators said arsonists may have set some of the deadliest wildfires in Australia's
history this weekend'

Note; 'may have set some' does not equal 'fires in Australia were arson'.

Argh - wish I could edit posts and delete all the jumps. Sorry about those.

"CLIMATE CHANGE" Yes the climate is changing and I'm affrid that we are heading for a world war. The dollar is going to crash and china is going to take the land as payment and people are going to go hungry because they cannot pay for food and Obama is saying the the sun will come out tomorrow.

And some morons are worried about Global warming.

If by 'morons' you mean climatologists and associated scientific institutions of the world, then yes.

Why don't we use greenhouses to generate electricity?

I've read that warming causes CO2 to rise. These idiots have the cause and effect reversed...CO2 does not cause warming!

You realize that if you buy carbon credits, it's basically an air tax? Pay taxes on air! Pay to breathe!

Insane, or what?

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